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Tue Apr 10th, 2007 01:04 pm |
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| Don Imus will begin his suspension on Monday. He has been suspende for the racist remark he made about a womans basketball team last week. (Rutgers University)
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Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2007 01:36 pm |
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| This guy is so old he should have been off the air years ago... not to mention that he had to know what the result was going to be when the words "nappy headed h*'s" came out of his mouth. What a Moron!
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Wed Apr 11th, 2007 12:48 pm |
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| Guess they going to have to rethink the temp leave. All of thier major sponsors have pulled there backing.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11th, 2007 01:42 pm |
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Long read sorry:
This was posted on another forum that I read on a daily basis, I was very shocked at some of the things that people on that forum posted on this topic. I’m still amazed just thinking about it. But coming from an African American female I can truly say that some people take things way out content. Now with that said hear me out, I’m not trying to condone, sugar-coat, or cover up what was said.
For a second lets turn the tables and say that Dave Chappelle said that or Money Mike said it, would it still be considered racists? I’m sure if one of the two I mentioned above said it or any other African American comedian said it everyone would be laughing their butts off about it and telling all their friends and co-workers the cute little comment Dave Chappelle said.
Still I’m not saying what he said was right I’m just saying look at it from both sides of the table for a second. It was supposed to be a joke but turned out to be a little out of taste or shall we say on the wrong side in the eyes of some of our Black Political Leaders.
I’m African American and I was not offended by the comment at all, but does that mean it didn’t effect other African Americans? It’s funny to me how everytime someone of another race makes a rude comment toward the African American community, that all these political leaders start to step up and want to say something about it. But are we living under double standards where its oh I’m black I can say this and say that but if you’re another race and say the same things I said then its wrong.
We can say well he does have the right to free speech and can say whatever he wants but with that you must be willing to accept the handout you will be given for voicing your opinion on something or making a racial joke that went to far. Now if Dave Chappelle had said it would we still be hearing all this talk about it, would Dave Chappelle be on the verge of loosing his job, would Dave Chappelle be looked down upon as a racists?
I sit on no side in this argument about the comments made, I’m not saying it was right and I’m not saying it was wrong. I was always told its not so much as what you said but how you said it.
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Wed Apr 11th, 2007 02:22 pm |
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| he said it to be funny, i'm with u there im also with u concerning chappelle. its hard to touch this without sounding wrong but if it would have been someone who was african american would it have been that big a deal??????
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Posted: Wed Apr 11th, 2007 02:37 pm |
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The context in which he said it in would be wrong for anyone, no matter race.
If maybe it had only been that one sentence?? Who knows, but the rest of the conversation is plain wrong no matter what race would have said it.
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Wed Apr 11th, 2007 02:58 pm |
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labrev wrote:
I’m African American and I was not offended by the comment at all, but does that mean it didn’t effect other African Americans? It’s funny to me how everytime someone of another race makes a rude comment toward the African American community, that all these political leaders start to step up and want to say something about it. But are we living under double standards where its oh I’m black I can say this and say that but if you’re another race and say the same things I said then its wrong.
We had a huge fall out in my family just a few weeks ago similar thing. Family member had came in using banned words in my house. My daughter just looked at him, he made a crack about he would whip her butt if she used such words.
I dont hardly think so!! I can teach my child about not following the world. But to have to constantly explain why family should be looked over and ignored??? I told him that it was really stressful for me to have to constantly go behind her own family.
If my side of the family talked in the manner my husbands did, she would not be allowed to be around them period. The crap would literlay hit the fan. No matter the context or anything. But she has to hear it from his side day in and day out.
Thank God for the peace in between! My husband feels no matter the race certain words and terminology shouldnt be used by anyone.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2007 11:03 pm |
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| I didnt mean that it should have been ok no matter who said it i just wonder if it would have made a difference. Regardless, Imus was officially fired from CBS this afternoon. more here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070412/ap_on_en_mu/imus_protests;_ylt=Ai4aUq1V4TGNkc3n3LnYw0Ss0NUE
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Fri Apr 13th, 2007 02:15 pm |
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I understand what you are saying and I feel the same way. Everyone no matter what race should not say certain things but given the day and age we live in people do have the right to free speech. But honestly if one of the African American Comedians had said that would it really be this big of a deal? I highly doubt it, like I said I'm sure half the African American Community would be walking around laughing and talking about it like it was the joke of the year.
I don't let people's racists comments upset me I just look at it as their own stupidity and move along. There are people in this world who are big racists and I refrain from dropping to their level. A lot of people took what was said as a joke, some got offended, I just said wow and left it at that.
Before we the African American Community try to shoot down other people for saying things we need to really sit back and take a look at what some of us do on a daily basis. Almost every single African American Comedian has made at least 1 racists comment before, I didn't see anyone trying to get him/her fired.
You have to crawl before you can walk, but if we are going to go around throwing out all these racists comments/remarks/jokes then how do we expect others to respect us and not do as we do?
I can walk around all day calling my roommate the N word like its nothing but if someone of another race calls me the N word do I have the right to get upset when I myself throw the word around like its nothing? I'm not even trying to hear all that well its not the same thing we mean it in a thats my homegirl way, but no matter what way I say the word it still goes all the way back to when African Americans were slaves and its just not right.
Lets take a look at "Nappy-Headed H***"
You can take that 2 ways as a compliment or a racists comment.
I post on a forum about natural hair because I'm in the process of going natural, its been a little over a year since I last permed my hair. NAPPY and ALL I am proud and happy of my Nappy Head. Now on this forum "Nappy-Headed" is posted in almost every single post. So are we being racists against our own race?
The word H** from my understanding its a gardening tool, last time I checked I was not a gardening tool. Yeah yeah yeah I know what he meant but honestly how many times have you called someone a H**? I'm guilty because I have a very bad mouth so every time someone cuts me off in traffic or something I tend to yell out H**, B****, S*** am I racists?
"Jiggaboo" Spike Lee used the word and heck even had a whole song about it in the movie School Daze. Does anyone know what a Jiggaboo is? I didn't see any Political Leaders jumping down Spike Lee's head trying to get the movie pulled from store shelves are anything.
ok long read sorry
But I'm not saying what was said was right, I'm just saying practice what you preach. Do as to others as you would have them do unto you. Don't sit behind closed doors throwing around racists jokes with your friends and then try to get all mad when someone else makes a racist comment.
If we are going to shoot down ever single white person, Mexican, etc. etc. for making racists comments towards the African American community then we need to start going after some of these rappers and comedians who do it on a daily basis and get paid to do it.
Making a racial comment/remark/joke is in very bad taste no matter who says it.
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Posted: Fri Apr 13th, 2007 02:23 pm |
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| Don't ever apologize for long reads when they r so damn interesting. I am on the same page with you, i throw words like b****,s*** and so on around all the time but i dont think im a racist. Another film example: Clerks 2 and the oh so nice word that randall tries to take back. Anything more I say is going to be repeating your statements, I have thought this way for a long time. It should not be ok for dave chappelle to have the n-word show on his tv show but it wasnt a big deal.
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Yeah that J word is what I was refering to as the rest of the conversation. That was a term in the 70's to describe darker skinned blacks. Just as offensive as the N word.
Never seen Spike Lee movies I dont guess.
I am not gonna say we are perfect, but we do not use that launguage here and try to teach others how wrong it is. And to suffer the aftermath from it should it arise.
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Posted: Thu Apr 19th, 2007 03:07 pm |
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Lots of uproar from Imus fans since the firing, Massachusets senator & former presidential hopeful John Kerry says he shouldnt have been fired read more http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/219254/john_kerry_says_that_don_imus_shouldnt.html
In the wake of the firing music executive have met and discussed the lyrics of rap songs... should Imus being fired have any weight in the future of music??
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8OJMIJ80.htm
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Thu Apr 19th, 2007 11:38 pm |
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| Have to come back and read that 2nd article, I sure hope they review that very carefully and put the squeezz on the music industry to clean it up.
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